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Post by Cartoon Head Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:52 pm

All classic examples, sadly.

These females that you mention in mags, etc.

Airbrushed. I have seen pics of some of them on a 'normal' day, and they are nothing special, at all.

Indeed, I see prettier women in the street, almost every day.

Those that have run you down, in the past?

Not worth bothering about.

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Post by xshivx Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:01 pm

even if some of them are airbrushed there still very skinny and beautiful Sad just makes ya wanna be like them

and thanks hun Smile very nice of you to say tht *hugs*
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Post by Cartoon Head Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:05 pm

xshivx wrote:even if some of them are airbrushed there still very skinny and beautiful Sad just makes ya wanna be like them

and thanks hun Smile very nice of you to say tht *hugs*


Tell you what, show me some pics of women that you aspire to, and me and the guys, we'll give our views.

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Post by xshivx Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:18 pm

lol i aint falling into that death trap

i know the girls are beautiful, trust me lol
but like the vision to others of beauty isn't gd really, like mopdels and stuff are way too skinny so girls think, right that's what i shud look like cus if not i will look fat
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Post by Cartoon Head Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:27 pm

Self image is a powerful thing, sure enough.

Used to go out with a girl, pathological about getting a boob op.

I advised against it, as she seemed to think it would be the answer to all her troubles.

She went out and got it anyway.

Her troubles remained.

Physical beauty is good, of course, but it really is what is within that also goes a long way.

Looks fade.

Fashions change.

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Post by xshivx Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:35 pm

yup i'll probs end up like that girl u mentioned lol

but if it's in ur head there aint much u can do about it is there? i mean councellers only see u if it's a health problem and that's only if you can prove it

they still aint helped me with my depression because the doctors didn't believe that me trying to 'top myself' a few years ago was a big issue or threat lol

so i can;t really get help for it, im trying my work out at the moment but that's difficult too cus i have this illness (nothing too serious) that makes me sick when i work out lol but im trying to work that out which will hopefully work

it's a vicious circle
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Post by Old Timer Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:37 pm

You really don't need to put to much stock into what other people think. Sometimes people are cruel without even realizing it. Just be yourself and you will find that more folks will accept you for what you are rather than for what they want you to be. You will find that this is more so true as you get older and come into contact with more mature people.

There is an old saying, " To thine own self be true " It is very true. Smile

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Post by Cartoon Head Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:38 pm

xshivx wrote:yup i'll probs end up like that girl u mentioned lol

but if it's in ur head there aint much u can do about it is there? i mean councellers only see u if it's a health problem and that's only if you can prove it

they still aint helped me with my depression because the doctors didn't believe that me trying to 'top myself' a few years ago was a big issue or threat lol

so i can;t really get help for it, im trying my work out at the moment but that's difficult too cus i have this illness (nothing too serious) that makes me sick when i work out lol but im trying to work that out which will hopefully work

it's a vicious circle

Yes, it can be addressed, if it gets that bad.

Ever heard of CBT?

Ask your GP, perhaps?

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Post by xshivx Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:40 pm

aww thank you timer Very Happy

i will try my best, it's just hard sometimes ya know? xxx
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Post by Cartoon Head Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:45 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy

Here ya go.

Definitely worth looking into, if you have the will.

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Post by xshivx Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:54 pm

cheers hun i will look into it

thanks so much for all ur help everyone Very Happy it's greatly appreciated
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Post by Old Timer Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:56 pm

[quote="The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi"][quote="xshivx"]yup i'll probs end up like that girl u mentioned lol

but if it's in ur head there aint much u can do about it is there? i mean councellers only see u if it's a health problem and that's only if you can prove it

they still aint helped me with my depression because the doctors didn't believe that me trying to 'top myself' a few years ago was a big issue or threat lol

so i can;t really get help for it, im trying my work out at the moment but that's difficult too cus i have this illness (nothing too serious) that makes me sick when i work out lol but im trying to work that out which will hopefully work

Seriously Steve, I really do wish you the best of luck in what you are trying to do.

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Post by Old Timer Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:02 pm

xshivx wrote:cheers hun i will look into it

thanks so much for all ur help everyone Very Happy it's greatly appreciated

And if you ever need to just talk there are a lot of really great folks here that will do just that. sometimes it can help just letting of a little steam and having someone to listen to you. A lot of us here may have been through similar problems and have learned to deal with them.

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Post by Cartoon Head Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:09 pm

[quote="Old Timer"][quote="The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi"]
xshivx wrote:yup i'll probs end up like that girl u mentioned lol

but if it's in ur head there aint much u can do about it is there? i mean councellers only see u if it's a health problem and that's only if you can prove it

they still aint helped me with my depression because the doctors didn't believe that me trying to 'top myself' a few years ago was a big issue or threat lol

so i can;t really get help for it, im trying my work out at the moment but that's difficult too cus i have this illness (nothing too serious) that makes me sick when i work out lol but im trying to work that out which will hopefully work

Seriously Steve, I really do wish you the best of luck in what you are trying to do.


Huh?

You've lost me here.... Question

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Post by xshivx Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:12 pm

Seriously Steve, I really do wish you the best of luck in what you are trying to do <<< with that bit or what i said?
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Post by Cartoon Head Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:13 pm

I thought it was OT that had said it to me!

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Post by Old Timer Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:14 pm

No, what I wrote there was for Steve.

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Post by xshivx Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:17 pm

Thank goodness i dint have to explain something lol im rubbish at that
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Post by Cartoon Head Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:20 pm

Old Timer wrote:No, what I wrote there was for Steve.

What did you mean, though?

Specifically?

*bit tired today, not really with it*

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Post by Old Timer Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:21 pm

Nope, you never have to say anything that you don't want to to anybody here. If anybody gets out of line with you just let Hot Paradox know. She is the moderator here. She is also a really good person to talk to, if you need to talk to her just PM her and she will respond. Smile

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Post by xshivx Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:23 pm

aww thank you i will remeber that Smile she sounds lovely already
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Post by Old Timer Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:25 pm

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:
Old Timer wrote:No, what I wrote there was for Steve.

What did you mean, though?

Specifically?

*bit tired today, not really with it*

I meant it for this

so i can;t really get help for it, im trying my work out at the moment but that's difficult too cus i have this illness (nothing too serious) that makes me sick when i work out lol but im trying to work that out which will hopefully work

I just wished you the best of luck with it

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Post by CarolinaHound Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:26 pm

xshivx wrote:yup i'll probs end up like that girl u mentioned lol

but if it's in ur head there aint much u can do about it is there? i mean councellers only see u if it's a health problem and that's only if you can prove it

they still aint helped me with my depression because the doctors didn't believe that me trying to 'top myself' a few years ago was a big issue or threat lol

so i can;t really get help for it, im trying my work out at the moment but that's difficult too cus i have this illness (nothing too serious) that makes me sick when i work out lol but im trying to work that out which will hopefully work

it's a vicious circle

I remember my little period of depression. Not something I was accustomed to, nor prone to, nor wish on anyone. It's a nasty devil, and it gets compounded by people that are honestly trying to help but just don't understand. And made worse by people that are just cruel. I do wish you luck working through it. It finally seemed to pass with me. I hope it soon lifts from you that easily.

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Post by xshivx Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:31 pm

Thanks ever so much for all ur support, i've had it for about 4years now Shocked
but im trying my best to cope with it, but yeh ur right most people just dont understand xx
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Post by HotParadox Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:11 pm

xshivx wrote:Thanks ever so much for all ur support, i've had it for about 4years now Shocked
but im trying my best to cope with it, but yeh ur right most people just dont understand xx
Sometimes you just need a friend, x. One that mostly just listens.
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Post by Old Timer Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:14 pm

Talk to her kid, she is good people Very Happy

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Post by xshivx Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:10 am

Very true and all of u have been fab listeners already Smile so thank yuo everyone Very Happy
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Post by Old Timer Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:19 am

So just keep on talking to us X, we always like to hear from the younger generation also. Your opinion does count.

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Post by coontie Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:19 pm

I think there are some things that must be kept out of sight, unviewed, unknown in order that we humans that have such a great tendency to rush to profane things will have something which remains that we can still respect, admire and appreciate.
After all, our customarily seeing each other nude [which for many is not a very pretty sight] will quickly become something that is despised and loathed. I think there would be an increase in abuse and violence, because our clothing sends a symbolic symbol that we have evolved [or should have, for some] above our crude, anaminalistic natures. In a way it serves to remind us that we should act and bechave civily. although this doesn't often have any effect on some.
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Post by coontie Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:21 pm

Old Timer wrote:Talk to her kid, she is good people Very Happy

Hey Jim... how do you know she's REALLY a kid - could be a "spoof", a.k.a scam ya know! Anybody can post a youngster's picture from any source...
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Post by Old Timer Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:25 pm

It seems that good old YWFT has vouched for her as being such.

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Post by xshivx Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:36 pm

lol im 18 i asure u
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Post by coontie Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:48 pm

xshivx wrote:lol im 18 i asure u

Okay... and you're also just virtual ones and zeros converted to hexidecimal on my computer. That's "really" all I will ever know about u...
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Post by Old Timer Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:51 pm

Well the hexidecimal sure is cute IMO hehehe Very Happy

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Post by xshivx Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:44 pm

well i can prove it to you but not on here

but why wud i want to fake it? i aint stupid, plus a guy from BN knows me and knows im 18 off there

as OT backed me up on if u dont believe it to be true i can get my ex bf to vouch for me who is also on BN but wud be willing to make a post on here proving so
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Post by CarolinaHound Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:57 pm

One, what is BN?
Second. I'm rather sure you're 18. My daughter just turned 18 last August. She should be ashamed of herself be coming a young woman on her old man too! Evil or Very Mad But I don't care, when she's my age, she's still gonna be my baby girl and she knows it. Very Happy

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Post by xshivx Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:11 pm

Bug nation, it is the forum i got this forum from Smile

and yeh my parents are like that with me too, it's well sweet Smile i love my parents too bits and i dont care who knows it lol
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Post by CarolinaHound Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:18 pm

Well you're a smart, sweet, and beautiful young lady. They have good reason to be proud.

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Post by Cartoon Head Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:19 pm

STOP!

Who freaking cares??!! Laughing

Pur-leez, let's back to the subject matter.

I assert that many of the social pressures re 'shame' over nudity, comes from religous influence.

You need only look at some of the attire worn by Muslim women to see this.

They are not just hung up about nudity, they cover up like a freaking Ninja.

And then there are nuns.

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Post by CarolinaHound Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:25 pm

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:STOP!

Who freaking cares??!! Laughing

Pur-leez, let's back to the subject matter.

I assert that many of the social pressures re 'shame' over nudity, comes from religous influence.

You need only look at some of the attire worn by Muslim women to see this.

They are not just hung up about nudity, they cover up like a freaking Ninja.

And then there are nuns.

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Next, I think it's a combination of those things, plus a little idea that people think they are keeping something a mystery from potential mates. You know, the tease, but you got to buy the whole box of non-sense to see all the goods.

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