Bush Truth Commission

We have just emerged from a time when White House officials often acted as if they were above the law. That was wrong and must be fully exposed so it never happens again.

That is why I proposed the idea of a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate abuses during the Bush-Cheney Administration. These abuses may include the use of torture, warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition, and executive override of laws.

During the past several years, this country has been divided as deeply as it has been at any time in our history since the Civil War. It has made our government less productive and our society less civil. In this week when we begin commemorating the Lincoln bicentennial, there is need, again, "to bind up the nation's wounds." President Lincoln urged that course in his second inaugural address some seven score and four years ago.

Rather than vengeance, we need a fair-minded pursuit of what actually happened. The best way to move forward is getting to the truth, finding out what happened, so we can make sure it does not happen again.

Please sign my online petition at BushTruthCommission.com -- and urge Congress to consider establishing a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate the Bush-Cheney Administration's abuses.

http://ga3.org/campaign/btcpetition

The Obama Administration has already made huge strides to restore the Constitution and renew our commitment to international law after eight corrosive years. But we must read the full page on this dark chapter in American history before we can turn it for good, which is why I feel so strongly about investigating what really happened.

I hope you agree.

Please sign my online petition at BushTruthCommission.com -- and urge Congress to consider forming a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate the Bush-Cheney Administration's abuses.

On Monday, I delivered a speech at Georgetown University where I outlined my ideas about why we need a truth and reconciliation commission and how it could work. You can click here to watch some of my remarks.

A truth and reconciliation commission would be tasked with seeking answers. It would provide Congress and the American people with a shared understanding of the failures of the recent past, so we do not repeat them in the future.

Please sign my online petition at BushTruthCommission.com -- and urge Congress to consider establishing a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate the Bush-Cheney Administration's abuses.

http://ga3.org/campaign/btcpetition

Thank you for taking action to prevent history from repeating itself by supporting the creation of a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate the misdeeds of the past eight years.

Sincerely,

Patrick Leahy
U.S. Senator

P.S. If you think establishing a truth and reconciliation commission is important, I hope you'll take just a second to sign my online petition -- and then forward this email to everyone you know. It's critically important that we build grassroots support to make sure we get the truth.

Frankg wrote:Why would I want to help Patrick Leahy , who while he was Vice Chairman of the United States Senate Select Committee on leaked classified information, run a smear campaign against President George W Bush , who liberated two countries and over 50 million people and successfully defended this country after the Clinton administration set the stage for 9/11 by letting Bin Laden off the hook .

Frankg wrote:Why would I want to help Patrick Leahy , who while he was Vice Chairman of the United States Senate Select Committee on leaked classified information, run a smear campaign against President George W Bush , who liberated two countries and over 50 million people and successfully defended this country after the Clinton administration set the stage for 9/11 by letting Bin Laden off the hook .

thomasjay wrote:

Frankg wrote:Why would I want to help Patrick Leahy , who while he was Vice Chairman of the United States Senate Select Committee on leaked classified information, run a smear campaign against President George W Bush , who liberated two countries and over 50 million people and successfully defended this country after the Clinton administration set the stage for 9/11 by letting Bin Laden off the hook .

Think strategically frank! Like any real American, you love the truth, right frank? So let the dirty libs have their little truth and reconciliation commision, when franktruth comes out, it could cause a huge backlash in the 2010 and 2012 election cycles. Because the Bush Administration never violated the constitution or any existing laws or international conventions.Unless the facts and truth have a liberal bias. Is that why you're afraid of this frank? Maybe a truthiness commision would be better?

thomasjay wrote:

Frankg wrote:Why would I want to help Patrick Leahy , who while he was Vice Chairman of the United States Senate Select Committee on leaked classified information, run a smear campaign against President George W Bush , who liberated two countries and over 50 million people and successfully defended this country after the Clinton administration set the stage for 9/11 by letting Bin Laden off the hook .

Think strategically frank! Like any real American, you love the truth, right frank? So let the dirty libs have their little truth and reconciliation commision, when franktruth comes out, it could cause a huge backlash in the 2010 and 2012 election cycles. Because the Bush Administration never violated the constitution or any existing laws or international conventions.Unless the facts and truth have a liberal bias. Is that why you're afraid of this frank? Maybe a truthiness commision would be better?

Frankg wrote:

thomasjay wrote:

Frankg wrote:Why would I want to help Patrick Leahy , who while he was Vice Chairman of the United States Senate Select Committee on leaked classified information, run a smear campaign against President George W Bush , who liberated two countries and over 50 million people and successfully defended this country after the Clinton administration set the stage for 9/11 by letting Bin Laden off the hook .

Think strategically frank! Like any real American, you love the truth, right frank? So let the dirty libs have their little truth and reconciliation commision, when franktruth comes out, it could cause a huge backlash in the 2010 and 2012 election cycles. Because the Bush Administration never violated the constitution or any existing laws or international conventions.Unless the facts and truth have a liberal bias. Is that why you're afraid of this frank? Maybe a truthiness commision would be better?

If Patrick Leahy is running this then I hope the "truth" doesn't come out . I would be more in favor of a bipartisan comission and even then still I wouldn't sign.

If they can't find any evidence that President George W Bush lied by now than they are wasting the taxpayers time and money

Just like Barack Hussein Obama , I hope Patrick Leahy fails, and he will.

Frankg wrote:Yes I do, and don't feel I'm unpatriotic either , quite the contrary , dissent is the highest form of patriotism

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Frankg wrote:Yes I do, and don't feel I'm unpatriotic either , quite the contrary , dissent is the highest form of patriotism

And yet, when people were speaking out against Bush, weren't you one of the first to denounce them for that, Frank?

If Obama fails, then everyone suffers.

Is that really what you want?

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Frankg wrote:Why would I want to help Patrick Leahy , who while he was Vice Chairman of the United States Senate Select Committee on leaked classified information, run a smear campaign against President George W Bush , who liberated two countries and over 50 million people and successfully defended this country after the Clinton administration set the stage for 9/11 by letting Bin Laden off the hook .

*Blinks*

Clinton is to blame for the failure to capture Bin Laden?

And here was I thinking how it was Bush who beat his chest, promised the world that this man would be brought in.

I would be more in favor of a bipartisan comission and even then still I wouldn't sign.

If they can't find any evidence that President George W Bush lied by now than they are wasting the taxpayers time and money

Just like Barack Hussein Obama , I hope Patrick Leahy fails, and he will.

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Frankg wrote:Yes I do, and don't feel I'm unpatriotic either , quite the contrary , dissent is the highest form of patriotism

And yet, when people were speaking out against Bush, weren't you one of the first to denounce them for that, Frank?

If Obama fails, then everyone suffers.

Is that really what you want?

Frankg wrote:...President George W Bush , who liberated two countries and over 50 million people and successfully defended this country after the Clinton administration set the stage for 9/11 by letting Bin Laden off the hook .

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Frankg wrote:Why would I want to help Patrick Leahy , who while he was Vice Chairman of the United States Senate Select Committee on leaked classified information, run a smear campaign against President George W Bush , who liberated two countries and over 50 million people and successfully defended this country after the Clinton administration set the stage for 9/11 by letting Bin Laden off the hook .

*Blinks*

Clinton is to blame for the failure to capture Bin Laden?

And here was I thinking how it was Bush who beat his chest, promised the world that this man would be brought in.

Clinton's hands weren't lily white, either.

"....Clinton is to blame for the failure to capture Bin Laden? BIN LADEN GATE By Cliff Kincaid

Several Clinton administration top officials appeared on television to express their surprise and anger over the terrorist attacks on New York City and the Pentagon by agents of Osama bin Laden. But just two years ago, they were accepting help from bin Laden in NATO's war on Yugoslavia. They were assisting the Kosovo Liberation Army which bin Laden was assisting with fighters trained in his camps in Afghanistan...."

It's a very long article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/535793/posts

thomasjay wrote: If you ever get time for some reading, you should check out "Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror " by Michael Scheuer. He was the agent in charge of the CIA's bin-Laden unit from '96-'99, and special advisor to the unit chief from 2001-2004. He pulls no punches with either administration.

Frankg wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Frankg wrote:Yes I do, and don't feel I'm unpatriotic either , quite the contrary , dissent is the highest form of patriotism

And yet, when people were speaking out against Bush, weren't you one of the first to denounce them for that, Frank?

If Obama fails, then everyone suffers.

Is that really what you want?

If Obama suceeds, everyone suffers.

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Frankg wrote:Yes I do, and don't feel I'm unpatriotic either , quite the contrary , dissent is the highest form of patriotism

And yet, when people were speaking out against Bush, weren't you one of the first to denounce them for that, Frank?

If Obama fails, then everyone suffers.

Is that really what you want?

I'm gonna jump in here where I maybe shouldn't. I think what Frank is saying here is that if BO succeeds in taking this country to the extreme left, ie socialism, then ultimately, the country will suffer. Hence, Frank would hope that our country does not wind up a Socialist country and I agree.

HotParadox wrote:

thomasjay wrote: If you ever get time for some reading, you should check out "Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror " by Michael Scheuer. He was the agent in charge of the CIA's bin-Laden unit from '96-'99, and special advisor to the unit chief from 2001-2004. He pulls no punches with either administration.

Thanks for that tj. I will make it a point to indeed read it.

Is the guy who wrote this book more of a centrist? That's what gets me, I had no idea that the guy who wrote the article is far right. To me, either extreme is not good for our country. Just my opinion.

Big Slick wrote:No Steve, that would make him a revolutionary...

OR would it?

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Frankg wrote:Yes I do, and don't feel I'm unpatriotic either , quite the contrary , dissent is the highest form of patriotism

And yet, when people were speaking out against Bush, weren't you one of the first to denounce them for that, Frank?

If Obama fails, then everyone suffers.

Is that really what you want?

I'm gonna jump in here where I maybe shouldn't. I think what Frank is saying here is that if BO succeeds in taking this country to the extreme left, ie socialism, then ultimately, the country will suffer. Hence, Frank would hope that our country does not wind up a Socialist country and I agree.

I think it is evident to anyone remotely politically aware, notwithstanding his posting history, that Frank was and rabid fan of Bush, someone who deploys alarmist terms to create division, and would sooner see the US go into greater decline, just so he could be 'right'.

At least, that is how I am reading him.

Seems others are as well.

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Big Slick wrote:No Steve, that would make him a revolutionary...

OR would it?

Slick, don't confuse the poor man.

Look, he has a gun in his avatar and everything.

He is ready to rebel.

Frank's Liberation Army Troops

Or just FLAT for short.

Frank's Liberation Army Troops

Or just FLAT for short.

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Big Slick wrote:No Steve, that would make him a revolutionary...

OR would it?

Slick, don't confuse the poor man.

Look, he has a gun in his avatar and everything.

He is ready to rebel.

Frank's Liberation Army Troops

Or just FLAT for short.

Come on. Frank has a right to opine without being made fun of.

thomasjay wrote:

Frank's Liberation Army Troops

Or just FLAT for short.

It still wouldn't be as good an acronym as the one for Moro Islamic Liberation Front\

Poor guys probably wonder why everybody laughs when they put out a statement

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

Big Slick wrote:No Steve, that would make him a revolutionary...

OR would it?

Slick, don't confuse the poor man.

Look, he has a gun in his avatar and everything.

He is ready to rebel.

Frank's Liberation Army Troops

Or just FLAT for short.

Come on. Frank has a right to opine without being made fun of.

I am sure he has a sense of humour though.

He's a big boy.

He can fight his own battles.

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

thomasjay wrote:

Frank's Liberation Army Troops

Or just FLAT for short.

It still wouldn't be as good an acronym as the one for Moro Islamic Liberation Front\

Poor guys probably wonder why everybody laughs when they put out a statement

MILF.

Lol.

Is it true or an urban myth that originally, 'The War On Terror' was actually 'The War Against Terror'?

Until they realised how that read out...

Frankg wrote:Why would I want to help Patrick Leahy , who while he was Vice Chairman of the United States Senate Select Committee on leaked classified information, run a smear campaign against President George W Bush , who liberated two countries and over 50 million people and successfully defended this country after the Clinton administration set the stage for 9/11 by letting Bin Laden off the hook .

thomasjay wrote:If you're certain the Bush-Cheney administration did nothing wrong and has nothing to hide, please sign the petition so this can be all cleared up once and for all....

We have just emerged from a time when White House officials often acted as if they were above the law. That was wrong and must be fully exposed so it never happens again.

That is why I proposed the idea of a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate abuses during the Bush-Cheney Administration. These abuses may include the use of torture, warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition, and executive override of laws.

During the past several years, this country has been divided as deeply as it has been at any time in our history since the Civil War. It has made our government less productive and our society less civil. In this week when we begin commemorating the Lincoln bicentennial, there is need, again, "to bind up the nation's wounds." President Lincoln urged that course in his second inaugural address some seven score and four years ago.

Rather than vengeance, we need a fair-minded pursuit of what actually happened. The best way to move forward is getting to the truth, finding out what happened, so we can make sure it does not happen again.

Please sign my online petition at BushTruthCommission.com -- and urge Congress to consider establishing a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate the Bush-Cheney Administration's abuses.

http://ga3.org/campaign/btcpetition

The Obama Administration has already made huge strides to restore the Constitution and renew our commitment to international law after eight corrosive years. But we must read the full page on this dark chapter in American history before we can turn it for good, which is why I feel so strongly about investigating what really happened.

I hope you agree.

Please sign my online petition at BushTruthCommission.com -- and urge Congress to consider forming a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate the Bush-Cheney Administration's abuses.

On Monday, I delivered a speech at Georgetown University where I outlined my ideas about why we need a truth and reconciliation commission and how it could work. You can click here to watch some of my remarks.

A truth and reconciliation commission would be tasked with seeking answers. It would provide Congress and the American people with a shared understanding of the failures of the recent past, so we do not repeat them in the future.

Please sign my online petition at BushTruthCommission.com -- and urge Congress to consider establishing a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate the Bush-Cheney Administration's abuses.

http://ga3.org/campaign/btcpetition

Thank you for taking action to prevent history from repeating itself by supporting the creation of a truth and reconciliation commission to investigate the misdeeds of the past eight years.

Sincerely,

Patrick Leahy
U.S. Senator

P.S. If you think establishing a truth and reconciliation commission is important, I hope you'll take just a second to sign my online petition -- and then forward this email to everyone you know. It's critically important that we build grassroots support to make sure we get the truth.