Re: Major General says president's eligibility needs proof

by **luciano** Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:25 pm

thomasjay wrote:
HotParadox wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Peregrine(Endangered) wrote:Maybe this needs to move to the conspiracy thread?????

Seconded.

*PLEASE*
(M)
It still involves politics. I'm going to leave it here.

Thirded. If I was to start posting threads that Dick Cheney was behind 9/11, Queen Elizabeth is a reptilian shapeshifter, or 'teh Joos' secretly control all governments, will you leave them up here? They all involve politics, and all have the same level of 'twoof'.

No they will get moved, like yours did. Frank's is borderline, and Ive decided to leave it in politics for now. You got any articles with retired generals stating Cheney was behind 9/11? I'll consider moving it back. Start another thread to "prove a point", I'll just delete it. Your Cheney thread may get shitcanned too now that I know why you started it.

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:46 pm

Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.

lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

by Cartoon Head Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:51 pm

Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.
CV

She doesn't need to.

He doesn't need to.

It is those making these claims that need to.

by thomasjay Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:54 pm

Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

This complaint has been thrown out at least 3 courts by 3 different judges on the grounds that Lisan has mentioned. If President Obama personally came to each one of your houses and showed it to you, you'd say it might be fake, No reason for a press conference to unsuccessfully placate the 10 or 15 percent of hardcore wingnuts who are 'concerned' with this.

by Guest Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:56 pm

Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

If Obama is not a citizen based on the fact that he has a certificate of live birth, and not a birth certificate, then neither am I nor the millions born in Hawaii and Idaho. That simple. Either ALL of us are citizens, or all of us are not. And according to the state government's who have handled my certificiate of live birth, I am a citizen. So who's right CV, you or the state of Wyoming and Utah which both accepted my certificate of live birth as a birth certificate to get a driver's license?

by Cartoon Head Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:57 pm

thomasjay wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

This complaint has been thrown out at least 3 courts by 3 different judges on the grounds that Lisan has mentioned. If President Obama personally came to each one of your houses and showed it to you, you'd say it might be fake, No reason for a press conference to unsuccessfully placate the 10 or 15 percent of hardcore wingnuts who are 'concerned' with this.

Yeah, but I bet those judges were members of the Black Panthers.

Razz

by Cartoon Head Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:58 pm

lisan24 wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

If Obama is not a citizen based on the fact that he has a certificate of live birth, and not a birth certificate, then neither am I nor the millions born in Hawaii and Idaho. That simple. Either ALL of us are citizens, or all of us are not. And according to the state government's who have handled my certificiate of live birth, I am a citizen. So who's right CV, you or the state of Wyoming and Utah which both accepted my certificate of live birth as a birth certificate to get a driver's license

It must be CV.

She 'told you so' remember?

Razz

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:38 pm

Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.
CV

She doesn't need to.

He doesn't need to.

It is those making these claims that need to.

you're wrong steve.

obama needs to put this issue to rest, and if he had nothing to hide, he would do that very thing.

CV

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:46 pm

thomasjay wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

This complaint has been thrown out at least 3 courts by 3 different judges on the grounds that Lisan has mentioned. If President Obama personally came to each one of your houses and showed it to you, you'd say it might be fake, No reason for a press conference to unsuccessfully placate the 10 or 15 percent of hardcore wingnuts who are 'concerned' with this.

not true TJ. if obama held a press conference with bc OR cb in hand that was verified to be a real document, i would happily accept that - and if he had nothing to hide, he would do that very thing.

CV

by **Old Timer** Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:52 pm

Susan aka CV wrote:
thomasjay wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

This complaint has been thrown out at least 3 courts by 3 different judges on the grounds that Lisan has mentioned. If President Obama personally came to each one of your houses and showed it to you, you'd say it might be fake, No reason for a press conference to unsuccessfully placate the 10 or 15 percent of hardcore wingnuts who are 'concerned' with this.
not true TJ. if obama held a press conference with bc OR cb in hand that was verified to be a real document, i would happily accept that - and if he had nothing to hide, he would do that very thing.

CV

Just remember, that the state of Hawaii issues two (2) types of certificates of live birth.
One for those not born here and the other for those that are born here.

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:05 pm

lisan24 wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

If Obama is not a citizen based on the fact that he has a certificate of live birth, and not a birth certificate, then neither am I nor the millions born in Hawaii and Idaho. That simple. Either ALL of us are citizens, or all of us are not. And according to the state government's who have handled my certificiate of live birth, I am a citizen. So who's right CV, you or the state of Wyoming and Utah which both accepted my certificate of live birth as a birth certificate to get a driver's license?

i don't recall ever arguing anything about whether it's a birth cetificate or certificate of live birth - so i don't know what you're talking about. and frankly, i don't care which it is.

the issue for me is the fact that obama is fighting tooth and nail to keep this, and all other documents that relate to it, under lock and key - out of the public's reach. if he has nothing to hide - why is he going to all this effort lisan????

it's a very simple issue to resolve - and if he had nothing to hide, he would resolve it.

CV

by thomasjay Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:09 pm

the issue for me is the fact that obama is fighting tooth and nail to keep this, and all other documents that relate to it, under lock and key

Can you link to some legitimate news stories ( AP, Reuters, BBC etc) to support that?

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:17 pm

Old Timer wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
thomasjay wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

This complaint has been thrown out at least 3 courts by 3 different judges on the grounds that Lisan has mentioned. If President Obama personally came to each one of your houses and showed it to you, you'd say it might be fake, No reason for a press conference to unsuccessfully placate the 10 or 15 percent of hardcore wingnuts who are 'concerned' with this.
not true TJ. if obama held a press conference with bc OR cb in hand that was verified to be a real document, i would happily accept that - and if he had nothing to hide, he would do that very thing.

CV

Just remember, that the state of Hawaii issues two (2) types of certificates of live birth.
One for those not born here and the other for those that are born here.

uh-oh... now you're 'rocking the boat' OT!! lmao Laughing

EXCELLENT point! cheers

CV

by **Old Timer** Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:20 pm

Susan aka CV wrote:
Old Timer wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
thomasjay wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

This complaint has been thrown out at least 3 courts by 3 different judges on the grounds that Lisan has mentioned. If President Obama personally came to each one of your houses and showed it to you, you'd say it might be fake, No reason for a press conference to unsuccessfully placate the 10 or 15 percent of hardcore wingnuts who are 'concerned' with this.
not true TJ. if obama held a press conference with bc OR cb in hand that was verified to be a real document, i would happily accept that - and if he had nothing to hide, he would do that very thing.

CV

Just remember, that the state of Hawaii issues two (2) types of certificates of live birth.
One for those not born here and the other for those that are born here.
uh-oh... now you're 'rocking the boat' OT!! lmao

EXCELLENT point!

CV

If memory serves me right I read an article that said all of Obamas records in Kenya have been sealed also and a reporter that was trying to get to them was arrested and ordered out of the country.

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:28 pm

Cartoon Head wrote:
lisan24 wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

If Obama is not a citizen based on the fact that he has a certificate of live birth, and not a birth certificate, then neither am I nor the millions born in Hawaii and Idaho. That simple. Either ALL of us are citizens, or all of us are not. And according to the state government's who have handled my certificiate of live birth, I am a citizen. So who's right CV, you or the state of Wyoming and Utah which both accepted my certificate of live birth as a birth certificate to get a driver's license

It must be CV.

She 'told you so' remember?

yea... i'm waiting patiently for the day to say "I TOLD YOU SO" to this one... cheers

btw steve... the little'click' that u have going on this site with lisan and thomasjay is sooooooooo CUTE!! u guys compliment each other quite well.... geek

CV

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:32 pm

thomasjay wrote:
the issue for me is the fact that obama is fighting tooth and nail to keep this, and all other documents that relate to it, under lock and key

Can you link to some legitimate news stories ( AP, Reuters, BBC etc) to support that?

nope.. i sure can't.

it's based solely on my keen and expert observation of the situation.

i'm sorry... is that a problem?

CV

by Cartoon Head Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:32 pm

It's CLIQUE.

And we're not in one.

Rolling Eyes

by Cartoon Head Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:34 pm

Susan aka CV wrote:
thomasjay wrote:
the issue for me is the fact that obama is fighting tooth and nail to keep this, and all other documents that relate to it, under lock and key

Can you link to some legitimate news stories ( AP, Reuters, BBC etc) to support that?
nope.. i sure can't.

it's based solely on my keen and expert observation of the situation.

i'm sorry... is that a problem?

CV

Translation - I have no decent sources, however, I will check my e mail tommorow, lest my neigbour sends me a viral e mail.

by **Old Timer** Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:34 pm

Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
lisan24 wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

If Obama is not a citizen based on the fact that he has a certificate of live birth, and not a birth certificate, then neither am I nor the millions born in Hawaii and Idaho. That simple. Either ALL of us are citizens, or all of us are not. And according to the state government's who have handled my certificiate of live birth, I am a citizen. So who's right CV, you or the state of Wyoming and Utah which both accepted my certificate of live birth as a birth certificate to get a driver's license

It must be CV.

She 'told you so' remember?

yea... i'm waiting patiently for the day to say "I TOLD YOU SO" to this one...

btw steve... the little'click' that u have going on this site with lisan and thomasjay is sooooooooo CUTE!! u guys compliment each other quite well....

CV

Seems to me that the thing to do would to be for someone to get a copy of both of those cert. of live birth and compare them to the one that Obama says is his. His don't even show what hospital he was born in as he claims he was. Mine does.

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:42 pm

Old Timer wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Old Timer wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
thomasjay wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

This complaint has been thrown out at least 3 courts by 3 different judges on the grounds that Lisan has mentioned. If President Obama personally came to each one of your houses and showed it to you, you'd say it might be fake, No reason for a press conference to unsuccessfully placate the 10 or 15 percent of hardcore wingnuts who are 'concerned' with this.
not true TJ. if obama held a press conference with bc OR cb in hand that was verified to be a real document, i would happily accept that - and if he had nothing to hide, he would do that very thing.

CV

Just remember, that the state of Hawaii issues two (2) types of certificates of live birth.
One for those not born here and the other for those that are born here.
uh-oh... now you're 'rocking the boat' OT!! lmao

EXCELLENT point!

CV

If memory serves me right I read an article that said all of Obamas records in Kenya have been sealed also and a reporter that was trying to get to them was arrested and ordered out of the country.

now that you mention it... i remember that too, OT! hmmm - why do you suppose that is...? it couldn't possibly be that there's anything unethical going. Rolling Eyes

better stop bringing up all this negative stuff... silent

'somebody's' gonna get upset... lol

CV

by thomasjay Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:19 pm

Susan aka CV wrote:
thomasjay wrote:
the issue for me is the fact that obama is fighting tooth and nail to keep this, and all other documents that relate to it, under lock and key

Can you link to some legitimate news stories ( AP, Reuters, BBC etc) to support that?
nope.. i sure can't.

it's based solely on my keen and expert observation of the situation.

i'm sorry... is that a problem?

CV

Um, yes it is a problem. When facts like Lisan has pointed out and judges have considered in finding against prior lawsuits don't support your belief you can't just ignore them and go on your gut. When you state that it's a fact that

obama is fighting tooth and nail to keep this, and all other documents that relate to it, under lock and key

and can't produce anything from a legitimate news source to support your statement, it's a problem and is hardly indicative of someone with keen and expert observation powers.

by **box86rowh** Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:47 pm

Here is a site that covers the whole issue...
http://obamathefraud.blogtownhall.com/

by **Peregrine(Endangered)** Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:50 pm

Susan aka CV wrote:
lisan24 wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:[personally, i've never believed obama was born in hawaii - still don't.

I doesn't matter what you 'believe'.

Try reading Lisa's post.

FFS.
lisan can't prove anything steve.

obama is the only one who can put this topic to rest once and for all. a press conference with bc in hand would do it.

but thanks.

CV

If Obama is not a citizen based on the fact that he has a certificate of live birth, and not a birth certificate, then neither am I nor the millions born in Hawaii and Idaho. That simple. Either ALL of us are citizens, or all of us are not. And according to the state government's who have handled my certificiate of live birth, I am a citizen. So who's right CV, you or the state of Wyoming and Utah which both accepted my certificate of live birth as a birth certificate to get a driver's license?
i don't recall ever arguing anything about whether it's a birth cetificate or certificate of live birth - so i don't know what you're talking about. and frankly, i don't care which it is.

the issue for me is the fact that obama is fighting tooth and nail to keep this, and all other documents that relate to it, under lock and key - out of the public's reach. if he has nothing to hide - why is he going to all this effort lisan????

it's a very simple issue to resolve - and if he had nothing to hide, he would resolve it.

CV

What fighting tooth and nail???? What effort??? As I see it he is busy working on important things.. If he was not a legal citizen, someone in the government would have seen to it that he couldn't have run his campaign let alone be sworn in as President if they didn't believe he was elligible. You all have been crying about taxes on small businesses, maybe thats where you should put your effort, not to this stupid ideal that Obama is not a legal citizen...I can't believe grown people are carrying on like this... Shocked

by Guest Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:55 pm

Peregrine, it's totally plausible. I mean, first Obama's birth certificate was a fake. The one he provided to factcheck.org was also a fake, he was somehow able to recreate a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii with the seal and signature. He was also in on this conspiracy from the instant he was conceived, telepathically telling his family to put a notice in the Honolulu newspaper of his birth to cover his ass when he runs for president 47 years later.

Like I said, totally plausible. Very Happy

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:17 pm

Cartoon Head wrote:It's CLIQUE.

And we're not in one.

hm.. okay then - i was being nice because "clique" is a negative term, but if you prefer that spelling - you got it - no problem here! Cool

CV

by Guest Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:27 pm

Cartoon Head wrote:It's CLIQUE.

And we're not in one.

Don't lie steve, everyone knows were online lovers.

Or are you breaking up with me on this message board? You heartless bastard...

by **luciano** Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:33 pm

lisan24 wrote:Peregrine, it's totally plausible. I mean, first Obama's birth certificate was a fake. The one he provided to factcheck.org was also a fake, he was somehow able to recreate a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii with the seal and signature. He was also in on this conspiracy from the instant he was conceived, telepathically telling his family to put a notice in the Honolulu newspaper of his birth to cover his ass when he runs for president 47 years later.

Like I said, totally plausible.

I had to turn my sarcasm meter up for that one tongue

by Guest Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:36 pm

luciano wrote:
lisan24 wrote:Peregrine, it's totally plausible. I mean, first Obama's birth certificate was a fake. The one he provided to factcheck.org was also a fake, he was somehow able to recreate a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii with the seal and signature. He was also in on this conspiracy from the instant he was conceived, telepathically telling his family to put a notice in the Honolulu newspaper of his birth to cover his ass when he runs for president 47 years later.

Like I said, totally plausible.

I had to turn my sarcasm meter up for that one

If it gets to bad let me know... also if I don't make sense let me know. Cold medicine always messes with me really bad. I think so far I've done allright... lol.

by Susan aka CV Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:44 pm

Cartoon Head wrote:
Susan aka CV wrote:
thomasjay wrote:
the issue for me is the fact that obama is fighting tooth and nail to keep this, and all other documents that relate to it, under lock and key

Can you link to some legitimate news stories ( AP, Reuters, BBC etc) to support that?
nope.. i sure can't.

it's based solely on my keen and expert observation of the situation.

i'm sorry... is that a problem?

CV

Translation - I have no decent sources, however, I will check my e mail tommorow, lest my neigbour sends me a viral e mail.

is tommorow the same as tomorrow?

it's NEIGHBOR

and yes, as a matter of fact - i actually check my email several times a day!

CV

by **luciano** Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:44 pm

Oh no problem, I just had to read it a couple times......."oh she's not serious".........lol.

by Guest Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:47 pm

Cartoon Head wrote:It's CLIQUE.

And we're not in one.