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Yeah, but she is the exception.

Seriously though, I do not think a lot of people appreciate how much of a stresser they can be, esp when young.

They should try a few nights of broken sleep, that might make them less dewy eyed about having them!

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:I find kids a bit annoying, if am being honest!

Don't think I am v paternal, really.

A bit? They are very annoying, that's why they're kids! Adults who are annoying are really kids who never grew up. Still do all the little things that are annoying/endearing/charming in children but revolting in adults.

Btw, I bet your D would not agree with you.

I am not revolting.

CarolinaHound wrote:I agree with the parenting licence. But..... How are you going to keep them from making babies without taking the class? Forced contraceptives? That's a human rights law suit if I ever heard one. But then you could argue the human rights of the baby, not having qualified parents. That's a catch-22.

(I wonder if you say catch-22 three times will catch-22 show up like beetle juice. )

What the?
What am I doing here!
I wonder why humans would need a license to procreate yet wolves do not? Nor do alligators, mice, orangutans, echidnas or fruit bats. Most animals are born experts in the art of survival yet losses of young ones are unavoidable and acceptable. Why is this not the case with humans?

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:Yeah, but she is the exception.

Seriously though, I do not think a lot of people appreciate how much of a stresser they can be, esp when young.

They should try a few nights of broken sleep, that might make them less dewy eyed about having them!

Could it be it's just other peoples children that annoy you? I notice things about other peoples kids that get on my nerves that I've already weaned mine from doing. I actually get more annoyed at the parent than I do the kid for letting them run around all harry karrie and stuff.

catch - 22 wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:I agree with the parenting licence. But..... How are you going to keep them from making babies without taking the class? Forced contraceptives? That's a human rights law suit if I ever heard one. But then you could argue the human rights of the baby, not having qualified parents. That's a catch-22.

(I wonder if you say catch-22 three times will catch-22 show up like beetle juice. )

What the?
What am I doing here!
I wonder why humans would need a license to procreate yet wolves do not? Nor do alligators, mice, orangutans, echidnas or fruit bats. Most animals are born experts in the art of survival yet losses of young ones are unavoidable and acceptable. Why is this not the case with humans?

Wow.. It does work.

Got no clue on that one. I'm sure it has something to do with us being more intelligent than the animals.

CarolinaHound wrote:

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:I find kids a bit annoying, if am being honest!

Don't think I am v paternal, really.

A bit? They are very annoying, that's why they're kids! Adults who are annoying are really kids who never grew up. Still do all the little things that are annoying/endearing/charming in children but revolting in adults.

Btw, I bet your D would not agree with you.

I am not revolting.

You are.

Get the kettle on.

CarolinaHound wrote:

catch - 22 wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:I agree with the parenting licence. But..... How are you going to keep them from making babies without taking the class? Forced contraceptives? That's a human rights law suit if I ever heard one. But then you could argue the human rights of the baby, not having qualified parents. That's a catch-22.

(I wonder if you say catch-22 three times will catch-22 show up like beetle juice. )

What the?
What am I doing here!
I wonder why humans would need a license to procreate yet wolves do not? Nor do alligators, mice, orangutans, echidnas or fruit bats. Most animals are born experts in the art of survival yet losses of young ones are unavoidable and acceptable. Why is this not the case with humans?

Wow.. It does work.

Got no clue on that one. I'm sure it has something to do with us being more intelligent than the animals.

ROFL!

HotParadox wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

catch - 22 wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:I agree with the parenting licence. But..... How are you going to keep them from making babies without taking the class? Forced contraceptives? That's a human rights law suit if I ever heard one. But then you could argue the human rights of the baby, not having qualified parents. That's a catch-22.

(I wonder if you say catch-22 three times will catch-22 show up like beetle juice. )

What the?
What am I doing here!
I wonder why humans would need a license to procreate yet wolves do not? Nor do alligators, mice, orangutans, echidnas or fruit bats. Most animals are born experts in the art of survival yet losses of young ones are unavoidable and acceptable. Why is this not the case with humans?

Wow.. It does work.

Got no clue on that one. I'm sure it has something to do with us being more intelligent than the animals.

ROFL!

Are you saying we are not animals?


(Sorry Hot! Responded to the wrong post)
This software is very unforgiving. Will take a little bit of getting used to!

HotParadox wrote:
Get the kettle on.

There are sooo many ways I could take that.

catch - 22 wrote:

HotParadox wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

catch - 22 wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:I agree with the parenting licence. But..... How are you going to keep them from making babies without taking the class? Forced contraceptives? That's a human rights law suit if I ever heard one. But then you could argue the human rights of the baby, not having qualified parents. That's a catch-22.

(I wonder if you say catch-22 three times will catch-22 show up like beetle juice. )

What the?
What am I doing here!
I wonder why humans would need a license to procreate yet wolves do not? Nor do alligators, mice, orangutans, echidnas or fruit bats. Most animals are born experts in the art of survival yet losses of young ones are unavoidable and acceptable. Why is this not the case with humans?

Wow.. It does work.

Got no clue on that one. I'm sure it has something to do with us being more intelligent than the animals.

ROFL!

Are you saying we are not animals?

Well I am, or so I've been told along with a few other things I won't mention here. But no, I meant the other animals.

CarolinaHound wrote:

catch - 22 wrote:

HotParadox wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

catch - 22 wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:I agree with the parenting licence. But..... How are you going to keep them from making babies without taking the class? Forced contraceptives? That's a human rights law suit if I ever heard one. But then you could argue the human rights of the baby, not having qualified parents. That's a catch-22.

(I wonder if you say catch-22 three times will catch-22 show up like beetle juice. )

What the?
What am I doing here!
I wonder why humans would need a license to procreate yet wolves do not? Nor do alligators, mice, orangutans, echidnas or fruit bats. Most animals are born experts in the art of survival yet losses of young ones are unavoidable and acceptable. Why is this not the case with humans?

Wow.. It does work.

Got no clue on that one. I'm sure it has something to do with us being more intelligent than the animals.

ROFL!

Are you saying we are not animals?

Well I am, or so I've been told along with a few other things I won't mention here. But no, I meant the other animals.

We are ALL animals in that sense!

Still makes me wonder! If we are more intelligent than other animals, wouldn't that makes us better at survival?

I don't know of any other animal which is born totally dependent on it's mother (in particular) for survival. But I would be happy if anyone else would know!

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:Yeah, but she is the exception.

Seriously though, I do not think a lot of people appreciate how much of a stresser they can be, esp when young.

They should try a few nights of broken sleep, that might make them less dewy eyed about having them!

Let me tell you something. I always tell you how great my kids are; how well they have turned out. Well, as little ones, they were more disruptive than most! Sweet, but so disruptive. But, I had a job to do, like all of us, and I let them carry on, as long as they were within bounds... and that disruptiveness in kids is what bright adults are made of.

The stress never goes away. Just different worries: will they get home ok, will they find a mate who won't take advantage of them, will they take good care of my grandchildren someday, will my grandchildren be healthy? Oy. Never ending.

Does this ring true with you too, with your own D? I tell my kids, don't just pick a husband or wife, but also pick the father or mother of your future children. Divorce is not an option for children. I know there are some cases, but you get my point.

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:Yeah, but she is the exception.

Seriously though, I do not think a lot of people appreciate how much of a stresser they can be, esp when young.

They should try a few nights of broken sleep, that might make them less dewy eyed about having them!

Let me tell you something. I always tell you how great my kids are; how well they have turned out. Well, as little ones, they were more disruptive than most! Sweet, but so disruptive. But, I had a job to do, like all of us, and I let them carry on, as long as they were within bounds... and that distuptiveness in kids is what bright adults are made of.

The stress never goes away. Just different worries: will they get home ok, will they find a mate who won't take advantage of them, will they take good care of my grandchildren someday, will my grandchildren be healthy? Oy. Never ending.

Does this ring true with you too, with your own D? I tell my kids, don't just pick a husband or wife, but also pick the father or mother of your future children. Divorce is not an option for children. I know there are some cases, but you get my point.

How disruptive were they? My brother shot the stained glass windows out of the church, set the neighbors yard on fire. He, my siter and their friends buried a farm tractor. My bro put a friend of his head through a wall, I came along several years later and did the samething... different friend. Pop won't paying attention one day and I flipped the lawnmower. I think I was 5 on that one, so not too little then. Our famous last words were not "Hey! watch this!" They were, "OH S***!!!" hehehehe

I said disruptive, not psychotic.

catch - 22 wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

catch - 22 wrote:

HotParadox wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

catch - 22 wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:I agree with the parenting licence. But..... How are you going to keep them from making babies without taking the class? Forced contraceptives? That's a human rights law suit if I ever heard one. But then you could argue the human rights of the baby, not having qualified parents. That's a catch-22.

(I wonder if you say catch-22 three times will catch-22 show up like beetle juice. )

What the?
What am I doing here!
I wonder why humans would need a license to procreate yet wolves do not? Nor do alligators, mice, orangutans, echidnas or fruit bats. Most animals are born experts in the art of survival yet losses of young ones are unavoidable and acceptable. Why is this not the case with humans?

Wow.. It does work.

Got no clue on that one. I'm sure it has something to do with us being more intelligent than the animals.

ROFL!

Are you saying we are not animals?

Well I am, or so I've been told along with a few other things I won't mention here. But no, I meant the other animals.

We are ALL animals in that sense!

Still makes me wonder! If we are more intelligent than other animals, wouldn't that makes us better at survival?

I don't know of any other animal which is born totally dependent on it's mother (in particular) for survival. But I would be happy if anyone else would know!

There are many examples, among birds, mammals, and inverts.

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:Yeah, but she is the exception.

Seriously though, I do not think a lot of people appreciate how much of a stresser they can be, esp when young.

They should try a few nights of broken sleep, that might make them less dewy eyed about having them!

Let me tell you something. I always tell you how great my kids are; how well they have turned out. Well, as little ones, they were more disruptive than most! Sweet, but so disruptive. But, I had a job to do, like all of us, and I let them carry on, as long as they were within bounds... and that disruptiveness in kids is what bright adults are made of.

The stress never goes away. Just different worries: will they get home ok, will they find a mate who won't take advantage of them, will they take good care of my grandchildren someday, will my grandchildren be healthy? Oy. Never ending.

Does this ring true with you too, with your own D? I tell my kids, don't just pick a husband or wife, but also pick the father or mother of your future children. Divorce is not an option for children. I know there are some cases, but you get my point.

Why not?

It is always an option, if there is not happiness.

It is an option that everyone should explore, if need be.

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:

HotParadox wrote:

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:Yeah, but she is the exception.

Seriously though, I do not think a lot of people appreciate how much of a stresser they can be, esp when young.

They should try a few nights of broken sleep, that might make them less dewy eyed about having them!

Let me tell you something. I always tell you how great my kids are; how well they have turned out. Well, as little ones, they were more disruptive than most! Sweet, but so disruptive. But, I had a job to do, like all of us, and I let them carry on, as long as they were within bounds... and that disruptiveness in kids is what bright adults are made of.

The stress never goes away. Just different worries: will they get home ok, will they find a mate who won't take advantage of them, will they take good care of my grandchildren someday, will my grandchildren be healthy? Oy. Never ending.

Does this ring true with you too, with your own D? I tell my kids, don't just pick a husband or wife, but also pick the father or mother of your future children. Divorce is not an option for children. I know there are some cases, but you get my point.

Why not?

It is always an option, if there is not happiness.

It is an option that everyone should explore, if need be.

Because, by the time a child would divorce his parents, the harm has been done. I would like my children to pick a mate mindful to chose wisely, not just blindly, because little ones will be involved. If you see what I'm saying.

Yeah.

But you have to let children be adults, and give them the freedom to pick their own partners, right?

Otherwise you just end up alienating them, imo.

The Ghost Of Yeah Well Fi wrote:Yeah.

But you have to let children be adults, and give them the freedom to pick their own partners, right?

Otherwise you just end up alienating them, imo.

Absolutely. This is something I taught them from early on. You know, I'd teach them stuff, age appropriate, as they were growing. Now, for the most part, I sit back and watch them sink or swim.

Your gonna make a great grandmother, a bit of an ornery one, but a great one non the less.