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Post by Frankg Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:59 pm

Excellent way to find out how many promises Barack Hussein Obama has kept and how many he has broken.
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Post by JReed Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:06 pm

I would like to say that our two-party system and primary election system essentially forces politicians to lie to get elected.

First you have to catagorize yourself as repub or dem just to be taken seriously.

then you have to pander to the extremists of your party to win the primary...and then you have to change your stance and try to get the middle of the road voters to win the election.

So either they lie to the extremists...or they lie to everyone else.

At the end of the day we lose because we the people don't force real change.

That isn't to say Obama isn't driving us right into the ground laughing all the way...because he is. I just don't think the lies he told while campaigning matter because every pres does. That's the shame of it.
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Post by Old Timer Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:00 pm

JReed wrote:I would like to say that our two-party system and primary election system essentially forces politicians to lie to get elected.

First you have to catagorize yourself as repub or dem just to be taken seriously.

then you have to pander to the extremists of your party to win the primary...and then you have to change your stance and try to get the middle of the road voters to win the election.

So either they lie to the extremists...or they lie to everyone else.

At the end of the day we lose because we the people don't force real change.

That isn't to say Obama isn't driving us right into the ground laughing all the way...because he is. I just don't think the lies he told while campaigning matter because every pres does. That's the shame of it.

And the sad part is that we not only know it, we just keep on electing those idiots year after year and letting them get away with it. So I guess that the shame is really on us isn't it? pale

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