U.S. Combat Troops Offically Withdrawn From Active Combat In Iraq

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

Old Timer wrote:

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

SSDD
Same stuff---Different day

Old Timer wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

SSDD
Same stuff---Different day

I heard that the only way that there will peace in the muslim world is when there will be no muslims in the world.

coontie wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

SSDD
Same stuff---Different day

I heard that the only way that there will peace in the muslim world is when there will be no muslims in the world.

I am afraid you are right in this regard. Now, Al SAdir [Muslim Cleric] is telling us TO LEAVE NOW!!!
And Al Quieda is preparing to attack France for thier insisting on banning of the Burqa which they state is an object of disresepect and degradation.
I've already seen some walking the streets here [putting their toes in the water, if you get the inference]. We should ban the damn things here as well. That and Sheira LAw.

Old Timer wrote:

coontie wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

SSDD
Same stuff---Different day

I heard that the only way that there will peace in the muslim world is when there will be no muslims in the world.

I am afraid you are right in this regard. Now, Al SAdir [Muslim Cleric] is telling us TO LEAVE NOW!!!
And Al Quieda is preparing to attack France for thier insisting on banning of the Burqa which they state is an object of disresepect and degradation.
I've already seen some walking the streets here [putting their toes in the water, if you get the inference]. We should ban the damn things here as well. That and Sheira LAw.

They say that they so believe in the koran so strongly and will live by it.

Just rmemeber this. The Koran clearly states that all non believers shall be killed.

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

Kazza wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

coontie wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

SSDD
Same stuff---Different day

I heard that the only way that there will peace in the muslim world is when there will be no muslims in the world.

I am afraid you are right in this regard. Now, Al SAdir [Muslim Cleric] is telling us TO LEAVE NOW!!!
And Al Quieda is preparing to attack France for thier insisting on banning of the Burqa which they state is an object of disresepect and degradation.
I've already seen some walking the streets here [putting their toes in the water, if you get the inference]. We should ban the damn things here as well. That and Sheira LAw.

They say that they so believe in the koran so strongly and will live by it.

Just rmemeber this. The Koran clearly states that all non believers shall be killed.

As does the bible...

Deuteronomy 17
17:2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Deuteronomy 17
17:12 Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.

Leviticus 20:27
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.

2 Chronicles 15:12-13
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

Deuteronomy 13:13-19
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.

Deuteronomy 13:7-12
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.

DM007 wrote:

True. But, it's ALL Old Testament. Not the "rules" (or mission, teachings, etc.) of Christianity. The New Testament discards, contradicts and condemns much of the Old Testament "rules". Although, Judaism is referred to as the "Old Testament belief" (or something to that effect). However, actions speak louder than words........Men are judged by their actions.

Kazza wrote:

DM007 wrote:

True. But, it's ALL Old Testament. Not the "rules" (or mission, teachings, etc.) of Christianity. The New Testament discards, contradicts and condemns much of the Old Testament "rules". Although, Judaism is referred to as the "Old Testament belief" (or something to that effect). However, actions speak louder than words........Men are judged by their actions.

Of course, but the quotes used to show that the Koran calls for the killing of infidels are taken out of context as well.

And I agree, men are judged by their actions, and I am not trying to justify the actions of extremists in any way, merely point out that it is not the religion that is the problem, per se, but the interpretation of it. Even though it may seem obvious to Christians today that those verses should not be followed, there have been times in the past when they have been used to justify horrendous slaughter. Likewise, parts of the Koran are being used today to justify terrorism. Both religions are inherently violent, and attacking the Koran completely misses the root of the violence. Convert everyone to Christianity and don't address their real grievances and you will just have people using the Bible to justify terrorism.

DM007 wrote:

Kazza wrote:

DM007 wrote:

True. But, it's ALL Old Testament. Not the "rules" (or mission, teachings, etc.) of Christianity. The New Testament discards, contradicts and condemns much of the Old Testament "rules". Although, Judaism is referred to as the "Old Testament belief" (or something to that effect). However, actions speak louder than words........Men are judged by their actions.

Of course, but the quotes used to show that the Koran calls for the killing of infidels are taken out of context as well.

And I agree, men are judged by their actions, and I am not trying to justify the actions of extremists in any way, merely point out that it is not the religion that is the problem, per se, but the interpretation of it. Even though it may seem obvious to Christians today that those verses should not be followed, there have been times in the past when they have been used to justify horrendous slaughter. Likewise, parts of the Koran are being used today to justify terrorism. Both religions are inherently violent, and attacking the Koran completely misses the root of the violence. Convert everyone to Christianity and don't address their real grievances and you will just have people using the Bible to justify terrorism.

Don't get me wrong, here. I agree. The religion itself isn't the problem. It's the leaders pushing their agenda, using the text to justify the agenda, and rally volunteers. The problem I have with all of it is the shear numbers. Christianity of the past was violent, but has been reduced to very few isolated incidents of the actions of fanatics. And in every case, these actions are condemned by the Christian religious leaders, government, etc. Not so with Islam. This is occurring on a grand scale, and none of it is discouraged by the religious leaders or their respective governments, which translates to approval by those involved. I respect them for who they are, but condemn their actions. But, wrong is wrong, and this is NO path to world peace. It's an attempt at world domination. It will fail, in the end, but at what cost?

CarolinaHound wrote:

DM007 wrote:

Kazza wrote:

DM007 wrote:

True. But, it's ALL Old Testament. Not the "rules" (or mission, teachings, etc.) of Christianity. The New Testament discards, contradicts and condemns much of the Old Testament "rules". Although, Judaism is referred to as the "Old Testament belief" (or something to that effect). However, actions speak louder than words........Men are judged by their actions.

Of course, but the quotes used to show that the Koran calls for the killing of infidels are taken out of context as well.

And I agree, men are judged by their actions, and I am not trying to justify the actions of extremists in any way, merely point out that it is not the religion that is the problem, per se, but the interpretation of it. Even though it may seem obvious to Christians today that those verses should not be followed, there have been times in the past when they have been used to justify horrendous slaughter. Likewise, parts of the Koran are being used today to justify terrorism. Both religions are inherently violent, and attacking the Koran completely misses the root of the violence. Convert everyone to Christianity and don't address their real grievances and you will just have people using the Bible to justify terrorism.

Don't get me wrong, here. I agree. The religion itself isn't the problem. It's the leaders pushing their agenda, using the text to justify the agenda, and rally volunteers. The problem I have with all of it is the shear numbers. Christianity of the past was violent, but has been reduced to very few isolated incidents of the actions of fanatics. And in every case, these actions are condemned by the Christian religious leaders, government, etc. Not so with Islam. This is occurring on a grand scale, and none of it is discouraged by the religious leaders or their respective governments, which translates to approval by those involved. I respect them for who they are, but condemn their actions. But, wrong is wrong, and this is NO path to world peace. It's an attempt at world domination. It will fail, in the end, but at what cost?

Very true. You aint so dumb.

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

DM007 wrote:

Kazza wrote:

DM007 wrote:

True. But, it's ALL Old Testament. Not the "rules" (or mission, teachings, etc.) of Christianity. The New Testament discards, contradicts and condemns much of the Old Testament "rules". Although, Judaism is referred to as the "Old Testament belief" (or something to that effect). However, actions speak louder than words........Men are judged by their actions.

Of course, but the quotes used to show that the Koran calls for the killing of infidels are taken out of context as well.

And I agree, men are judged by their actions, and I am not trying to justify the actions of extremists in any way, merely point out that it is not the religion that is the problem, per se, but the interpretation of it. Even though it may seem obvious to Christians today that those verses should not be followed, there have been times in the past when they have been used to justify horrendous slaughter. Likewise, parts of the Koran are being used today to justify terrorism. Both religions are inherently violent, and attacking the Koran completely misses the root of the violence. Convert everyone to Christianity and don't address their real grievances and you will just have people using the Bible to justify terrorism.

Don't get me wrong, here. I agree. The religion itself isn't the problem. It's the leaders pushing their agenda, using the text to justify the agenda, and rally volunteers. The problem I have with all of it is the shear numbers. Christianity of the past was violent, but has been reduced to very few isolated incidents of the actions of fanatics. And in every case, these actions are condemned by the Christian religious leaders, government, etc. Not so with Islam. This is occurring on a grand scale, and none of it is discouraged by the religious leaders or their respective governments, which translates to approval by those involved. I respect them for who they are, but condemn their actions. But, wrong is wrong, and this is NO path to world peace. It's an attempt at world domination. It will fail, in the end, but at what cost?

Very true. You aint so dumb.

Yep just another case of history repeating itself again.

Old Timer wrote:

coontie wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

SSDD
Same stuff---Different day

I heard that the only way that there will peace in the muslim world is when there will be no muslims in the world.

I am afraid you are right in this regard. Now, Al SAdir [Muslim Cleric] is telling us TO LEAVE NOW!!!
And Al Quieda is preparing to attack France for thier insisting on banning of the Burqa which they state is an object of disresepect and degradation.
I've already seen some walking the streets here [putting their toes in the water, if you get the inference]. We should ban the damn things here as well. That and Sheira LAw.

They say that they so believe in the koran so strongly and will live by it.

Just rmemeber this. The Koran clearly states that all non believers shall be killed.

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

Night-Reaper wrote:

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

It's good news that our troops are pulling out. Actually, this should have happened years ago. Even better yet, we should have never went to Iraq.

coontie wrote:

Night-Reaper wrote:

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

It's good news that our troops are pulling out. Actually, this should have happened years ago. Even better yet, we should have never went to Iraq.

I agree. Shouldn't have went into Vietnam either. We would be trillions of dollars ahead now, and resources spared, as well as many young lifes would hae been spared. I have said it before but will repeat: anytime the politicans vote to go to war, they, including the president shjould suit and arm up and be right in the thick of combat. Along with the Vanderbilts, Rockerfellers, Kennedys, as well as the fat-cat CEOs of the military/industrial complex corporations and all of their of age children.
I think there may not be as many wars. Now us being attacked directly here, another story.

Night-Reaper wrote:

coontie wrote:

Night-Reaper wrote:

coontie wrote:As of today, our combat fighting forces have been removed to safe-zone camps and are not to any further engage in combat anywhere in Iraq, unless Iraqi authorities request our help in the future.
In the meantime, the "suicide bombing" carnage goes on with these people. Seems like Islam is based upon some sort of evil bloodlust and cruelty. As demonstrated by some of these practicing Muslims.
Seems like it is the Shite and Sunni factions that still cannot get along. Much the same situation, circumstance, previous to our entrance into that hell hole.
Hope, somehow, that the sacrifice of many of our best and tyoungest was worth it. Don't see or hear of any wealthy people's relatives amongst them. What's new?

It's good news that our troops are pulling out. Actually, this should have happened years ago. Even better yet, we should have never went to Iraq.

I agree. Shouldn't have went into Vietnam either. We would be trillions of dollars ahead now, and resources spared, as well as many young lifes would hae been spared. I have said it before but will repeat: anytime the politicans vote to go to war, they, including the president shjould suit and arm up and be right in the thick of combat. Along with the Vanderbilts, Rockerfellers, Kennedys, as well as the fat-cat CEOs of the military/industrial complex corporations and all of their of age children.
I think there may not be as many wars. Now us being attacked directly here, another story.

I agree with you. Our government plays too much of the World Cop, too much of the World Nurse and too much of the World ATM. It sickens me our gov't is like this, and yet it allows problems and issues to compound in this country.