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Post by Cartoon Head Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:57 pm

And guess freaking what, Grim....... it is not from rense Suspect


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090216/tuk-government-exploiting-terrorism-6323e80.html

Former MI5 head Dame Stella Rimington has claimed the Government had exploited people's fear of terrorism to restrict civil liberties. In an outspoken interview she said ministers risked handing a victory to terrorists by making people "live in fear and under a police state".

Dame Stella, who stood down as the Security Service's Director General in 1996, also accused the USA of going too far, claiming the Guantanamo Bay camp and allegations of torture had been a recruiting sergeant for extremists.

Her comments came as a report by a panel of leading judges and lawyers said measures to tackle terrorism have undermined international human rights laws.

In an interview with the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia, Dame Stella said: "Since I have retired I feel more at liberty to be against certain decisions of the Government, especially the attempt to pass laws which interfere with people's privacy."

In the interview, published in the Daily Telegraph, she continued: "It would be better that the Government recognised that there are risks, rather than frightening people in order to be able to pass laws which restrict civil liberties, precisely one of the objects of terrorism: that we live in fear and under a police state."

Dame Stella, 73, has been a harsh critic of the Government's policies, including attempts to extend pre-charge detention for terror suspects to 42 days and the controversial ID cards plan.

She added: "The US has gone too far with Guantanamo and the tortures. MI5 does not do that. Furthermore it has achieved the opposite effect - there are more and more suicide terrorists finding a greater justification."

A study published by the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) found "many states have fallen into a trap set by terrorists" by introducing measures which undermine the values they seek to protect.

The Panel warned that exceptional "temporary" counter-terrorism measures are becoming permanent features of law and practice. The report condemned the use of "notorious" counter-terrorism tactics such as torture, disappearances, arbitrary and secret detention.

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Post by thomasjay Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:01 pm

Ah.. I was thinking you had posted this article, since I saw it before the former MI-5 head one:

Anti-terror tactics 'weaken law'
Anti-terror measures worldwide have seriously undermined international human rights law, a report by legal experts says.

After a three-year global study, the International Commission of Jurists said many states used the public's fear of terrorism to introduce measures.

These included detention without trial, illegal disappearance and torture.

It also said that the UK and the US have "actively undermined" international law by their actions.

It concluded that many measures introduced to fight terrorism were illegal and counter-productive.

It called for justice systems to be strengthened and warned that temporary measures should not become permanent.

The Geneva-based International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) is a non-governmental organisation which promotes the observance of the rule of law and the legal protection of human rights.

The panel of eminent lawyers and judges concluded that the framework of international law that existed before the 9/11 attacks on the US was robust and effective.

Lack of safeguards

But now, it said, it was being actively undermined by many states and liberal democracies like the US and the UK.

The report remarks upon the extent to which undemocratic regimes with poor human rights records have referred to counter-terror practices of countries like the US to justify their own abusive policies
The report will make uncomfortable reading for many in governments on both sides of the Atlantic, says BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner.

The panel said the legal systems put in place after World War II were "well-equipped to handle current terror threats".

It said countries should use civilian legal systems to try suspects and "not resort to ad-hoc tribunals or military courts to try terror suspects".

The report's authors expressed concern at the lack of adequate safeguards in the use of control orders, the weakness of diplomatic assurances in relation to deportations and "excessive detention without charge".

Public protection

Britain's pre-trial detention time limit of 28 days is one of the longest in the world.

The British Home Office said the UK faced a severe threat from terrorism.
"We recognise clearly our obligations to protect the public from terrorist atrocities whilst upholding our firm commitment to human rights and civil liberties," it said in a statement.

"Our policies strike that balance, with new legislation facing rigorous scrutiny through external consultation and in Parliament as well as being subject to the Human Rights Act, which the UK government enacted."

The ICJ report recommended an urgent review of counter-terrorism laws and policies to prevent serious and permanent damage to fundamental human rights principles.

Fear of terrorism

The panel reviewed counter-terrorism measures in over 40 countries, and heard from government officials, victims of terror attacks, and from people detained on suspicion of terrorism.

It found that many states have used the fear of terrorism to introduce measures which are illegal such as torture, detention without trial, and enforced disappearance.

Some of the world's top international law experts served on the ICJ panel, including Mary Robinson, former president of Ireland and former United Nations human rights commissioner, and Arthur Chaskelson, former president of the constitutional court of south Africa.


Mr Chaskelson, chairman of the panel, said: "In the course of this inquiry, we have been shocked by the extent of the damage done over the past seven years by excessive or abusive counter-terrorism measures in a wide range of countries around the world.

"Many governments, ignoring the lessons of history, have allowed themselves to be rushed into hasty responses to terrorism that have undermined cherished values and violated human rights.

"The result is a serious threat to the integrity of the international human rights legal framework."

The report also called on the US administration of President Barack Obama to repeal any policies that were instigated under the "'war on terror' paradigm" that were inconsistent with international human rights law.

"In particular, it should renounce the use of torture and other proscribed interrogation techniques, extraordinary renditions, and secret and prolonged detention without charge or trial," the report recommended.

It added that the US detention centre at Guantanamo Bay should be closed in a "human rights compliant manner", with inmates either released or charged.

President Obama ordered the closure of Guantanamo Bay within hours of becoming president last month, as well as ordering a review of military trials for terror suspects and a ban on harsh interrogation methods.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7892387.stm

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Post by Cartoon Head Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:01 pm

Hi Tom. When my crazy estranged wife used to work in London, Dame Stella Rimington was her boss. Just a little bit of trivia there.

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:49 pm

I don't really know what else to say other than it really sucks that a lot of people can't see what Dame Stella is talking about.

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Post by Cartoon Head Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:58 pm

lisan23 wrote:I don't really know what else to say other than it really sucks that a lot of people can't see what Dame Stella is talking about.



I would like Grim's take on this item.

Or Frank.

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