Off the clock

Here is a sceanrio: If an employee tells his/her employer that he/she doesn't feel well and that they are unable to complete their shift and that they need to leave early. That employer OK's it for that employee to leave early. However, the employee was actually lying to get off early. If that employee that got off early goes to a store or restarant or whatever and is seen by their co-worker or boss, should that employee who lied get in trouble when they return back to work or is there is no grounds for getting in trouble because that employee can do what ever they like off the clock?

I was involved in a situation like this one before. The employer tried to reduce my hours because I lied about my reason for wanting to get off early, but it didn't work. Personally, I beleive once an employee is clocked off, they can do whatever they want to do. The company they work for can't say anything.

Night-Reaper wrote:Here is a sceanrio: If an employee tells his/her employer that he/she doesn't feel well and that they are unable to complete their shift and that they need to leave early. That employer OK's it for that employee to leave early. However, the employee was actually lying to get off early. If that employee that got off early goes to a store or restarant or whatever and is seen by their co-worker or boss, should that employee who lied get in trouble when they return back to work or is there is no grounds for getting in trouble because that employee can do what ever they like off the clock?

I was involved in a situation like this one before. The employer tried to reduce my hours because I lied about my reason for wanting to get off early, but it didn't work. Personally, I beleive once an employee is clocked off, they can do whatever they want to do. The company they work for can't say anything.

If an employee of mine did that to me I would simply tell them that their services are no longer required.

Night-Reaper wrote:Here is a sceanrio: If an employee tells his/her employer that he/she doesn't feel well and that they are unable to complete their shift and that they need to leave early. That employer OK's it for that employee to leave early. However, the employee was actually lying to get off early. If that employee that got off early goes to a store or restarant or whatever and is seen by their co-worker or boss, should that employee who lied get in trouble when they return back to work or is there is no grounds for getting in trouble because that employee can do what ever they like off the clock?

I was involved in a situation like this one before. The employer tried to reduce my hours because I lied about my reason for wanting to get off early, but it didn't work. Personally, I beleive once an employee is clocked off, they can do whatever they want to do. The company they work for can't say anything.

I had an aunt pass away a few years back. I had arranged with my manager to work an early shift so I could get off and have time to go to her funneral. The guy who was to work the later shift came in and worked an hour then said he was sick and needed to go home. He was hung over, you could still smell the beer on him. Anyway, the manager sent him home and I had to stay and close. I missed my aunts funneral and I worked a 4 am to 9 pm shift. I was a bit irritated, so I stopped by a bar on my way home. Sure enough there was his. "I don't feel good" butt, getting drunk again. The bartender told me he'd been there since she came in.

I'm afraid I can't agree with you on this one NR. When you do that somebody else get's screwed and has to cover your work, or your employer gets screwed by your job not getting done. I think they should have every right to give your hours to someone that's proven they'll be there when they're suppose to. The only exception would be if you requested that time off ahead of time and the company, unreasonably, refused to work out the shedule so you could get off.

Night-Reaper wrote:Here is a sceanrio: If an employee tells his/her employer that he/she doesn't feel well and that they are unable to complete their shift and that they need to leave early. That employer OK's it for that employee to leave early. However, the employee was actually lying to get off early. If that employee that got off early goes to a store or restarant or whatever and is seen by their co-worker or boss, should that employee who lied get in trouble when they return back to work or is there is no grounds for getting in trouble because that employee can do what ever they like off the clock?

I was involved in a situation like this one before. The employer tried to reduce my hours because I lied about my reason for wanting to get off early, but it didn't work. Personally, I beleive once an employee is clocked off, they can do whatever they want to do. The company they work for can't say anything.

I fired 3 people for the exact same reason when I was a manager at 2 large retail stores-Eddie Bauer and Wilson's Leather. I would fire your lying ass, too.

Qi123 wrote:All Hail Boss Lady Paradox!

Ok, that's my next new signature! I gotta keep you guys in line!

My favorite from several years ago.

I left a few minutes early to go to an appointment. Two of my employees decided it would be a good idea to sneak out early since I had already left for the day.

The only problem with that strategy was the the employees passed me on the interstate.

I 'counseled' them the next day, not for leaving early, but for being stupid.

par84forme wrote:My favorite from several years ago.

I left a few minutes early to go to an appointment. Two of my employees decided it would be a good idea to sneak out early since I had already left for the day.

The only problem with that strategy was the the employees passed me on the interstate.

I 'counseled' them the next day, not for leaving early, but for being stupid.

Beautiful,--------- old saying : Be good, and if you can't be good, be careful so ya don't et caught.

CarolinaHound wrote:

Night-Reaper wrote:Here is a sceanrio: If an employee tells his/her employer that he/she doesn't feel well and that they are unable to complete their shift and that they need to leave early. That employer OK's it for that employee to leave early. However, the employee was actually lying to get off early. If that employee that got off early goes to a store or restarant or whatever and is seen by their co-worker or boss, should that employee who lied get in trouble when they return back to work or is there is no grounds for getting in trouble because that employee can do what ever they like off the clock?

I was involved in a situation like this one before. The employer tried to reduce my hours because I lied about my reason for wanting to get off early, but it didn't work. Personally, I beleive once an employee is clocked off, they can do whatever they want to do. The company they work for can't say anything.

I had an aunt pass away a few years back. I had arranged with my manager to work an early shift so I could get off and have time to go to her funneral. The guy who was to work the later shift came in and worked an hour then said he was sick and needed to go home. He was hung over, you could still smell the beer on him. Anyway, the manager sent him home and I had to stay and close. I missed my aunts funneral and I worked a 4 am to 9 pm shift. I was a bit irritated, so I stopped by a bar on my way home. Sure enough there was his. "I don't feel good" butt, getting drunk again. The bartender told me he'd been there since she came in.

I'm afraid I can't agree with you on this one NR. When you do that somebody else get's screwed and has to cover your work, or your employer gets screwed by your job not getting done. I think they should have every right to give your hours to someone that's proven they'll be there when they're suppose to. The only exception would be if you requested that time off ahead of time and the company, unreasonably, refused to work out the shedule so you could get off.

OK you do bring up a valid point.

HotParadox wrote:

Night-Reaper wrote:Here is a sceanrio: If an employee tells his/her employer that he/she doesn't feel well and that they are unable to complete their shift and that they need to leave early. That employer OK's it for that employee to leave early. However, the employee was actually lying to get off early. If that employee that got off early goes to a store or restarant or whatever and is seen by their co-worker or boss, should that employee who lied get in trouble when they return back to work or is there is no grounds for getting in trouble because that employee can do what ever they like off the clock?

I was involved in a situation like this one before. The employer tried to reduce my hours because I lied about my reason for wanting to get off early, but it didn't work. Personally, I beleive once an employee is clocked off, they can do whatever they want to do. The company they work for can't say anything.

I fired 3 people for the exact same reason when I was a manager at 2 large retail stores-Eddie Bauer and Wilson's Leather. I would fire your lying ass, too.

Just I told CH, that he has a valid point. However, some people will do anything to get out of work for the rest of the day, without thinking about the consecqences of putting their work load on their co-workers. But you wouldn't have to worry HP, I'd never do that to you.

Aww, you're sweet N-R!

HotParadox wrote:Aww, you're sweet N-R!

Oh sure, a little sweet talk and everything is fine. You was ready to fire his butt awhile back. fickle!

CarolinaHound wrote:

HotParadox wrote:Aww, you're sweet N-R!

Oh sure, a little sweet talk and everything is fine. You was ready to fire his butt awhile back. fickle!

Well what do you expect Dawg. Afterhe is a female ya know and they do things like that. lol

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

HotParadox wrote:Aww, you're sweet N-R!

Oh sure, a little sweet talk and everything is fine. You was ready to fire his butt awhile back. fickle!

Well what do you expect Dawg. Afterhe is a female ya know and they do things like that. lol

True... very true.

CarolinaHound wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

HotParadox wrote:Aww, you're sweet N-R!

Oh sure, a little sweet talk and everything is fine. You was ready to fire his butt awhile back. fickle!

Well what do you expect Dawg. Afterhe is a female ya know and they do things like that. lol

True... very true.

Guess where we are going. lol

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

HotParadox wrote:Aww, you're sweet N-R!

Oh sure, a little sweet talk and everything is fine. You was ready to fire his butt awhile back. fickle!

Well what do you expect Dawg. Afterhe is a female ya know and they do things like that. lol

HP is great, what did you expect.

Night-Reaper wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

HotParadox wrote:Aww, you're sweet N-R!

Oh sure, a little sweet talk and everything is fine. You was ready to fire his butt awhile back. fickle!

Well what do you expect Dawg. Afterhe is a female ya know and they do things like that. lol

HP is great, what did you expect.

CarolinaHound wrote:

Night-Reaper wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

HotParadox wrote:Aww, you're sweet N-R!

Oh sure, a little sweet talk and everything is fine. You was ready to fire his butt awhile back. fickle!

Well what do you expect Dawg. Afterhe is a female ya know and they do things like that. lol

HP is great, what did you expect.

Jealous???

Yes.

You guys with the jokes, keep me laaaauuughing lol!!!

Except for you 2 and you know who you are. Why can't you be nice like N-R???

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

HotParadox wrote:Aww, you're sweet N-R!

Oh sure, a little sweet talk and everything is fine. You was ready to fire his butt awhile back. fickle!

Well what do you expect Dawg. Afterhe is a female ya know and they do things like that. lol

True... very true.

Guess where we are going. lol

NO way. I'm putting you guys right were I can see you when I'm cooking. In fact I have a special one just for you 2 and if you get naughty, I'm tossing you on the top level.

HotParadox wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

CarolinaHound wrote:

HotParadox wrote:Aww, you're sweet N-R!

Oh sure, a little sweet talk and everything is fine. You was ready to fire his butt awhile back. fickle!

Well what do you expect Dawg. Afterhe is a female ya know and they do things like that. lol

True... very true.

Guess where we are going. lol

NO way. I'm putting you guys right were I can see you when I'm cooking. In fact I have a special one just for you 2 and if you get naughty, I'm tossing you on the top level.

That's just mean. Best watch out NR. Looks like HP takes "you're fired" too a whole new level.

hehehe!

HotParadox wrote:hehehe!

Does this mean that I get the " HOT SEAT "

Old Timer wrote:

HotParadox wrote:hehehe!

Does this mean that I get the " HOT SEAT "

It sure does OT, and here's your hot seat!

Night-Reaper wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

HotParadox wrote:hehehe!

Does this mean that I get the " HOT SEAT "

It sure does OT, and here's your hot seat!

Now that looks like fun

Old Timer wrote:

Night-Reaper wrote:

Old Timer wrote:

HotParadox wrote:hehehe!

Does this mean that I get the " HOT SEAT "

It sure does OT, and here's your hot seat!

Now that looks like fun

lmao@